Guess what?!
The thousands of illegal alien residents who were supposed to profit from Governor Brown's immoral DREAM Act … are not using the money at all.
Why? They are still rightfully fearful of being deported.
Legitimacy is essential to all things.
Anyone who lives in this country must do so legally.
This is not a hard concept, and the state of California should stop enticing more illegal aliens with these ridiculous, piecemeal proposals!
Thousands inDream Act grants being left on the table
Undocumented
college students are leaving a wealth of unspent aid money on the table five
years after the passage of the landmark California law that provides those
immigrants grants for higher education. Student Paola Mora is pictured here.
(Courtesy photo)
college students are leaving a wealth of unspent aid money on the table five
years after the passage of the landmark California law that provides those
immigrants grants for higher education. Student Paola Mora is pictured here.
(Courtesy photo)
Undocumented college students are leaving a wealth of
unspent aid money on the table five years after the passage of the landmark
California law that provides those immigrants grants for higher education.
unspent aid money on the table five years after the passage of the landmark
California law that provides those immigrants grants for higher education.
ARRGH! Let's cut the crap, please! They are not "undocumented immigrants." They are illegal aliens.
Yes, human beings can be illegal, if their status is illegal, based on unlawful presence.
The California Dream Act made them eligible for several
kinds of grants to attend community colleges, California State Universities,
the University of California and some private campuses. But the euphoria among
advocates that accompanied the law’s passage has been dampened by the reality
that the state-funded Cal Grant portion of the aid is reaching far fewer
undocumented students than originally envisioned, particularly at community
colleges.
kinds of grants to attend community colleges, California State Universities,
the University of California and some private campuses. But the euphoria among
advocates that accompanied the law’s passage has been dampened by the reality
that the state-funded Cal Grant portion of the aid is reaching far fewer
undocumented students than originally envisioned, particularly at community
colleges.
Silly liberals. College is for American kids, for citizens, for men and women who obey the law, who follow the rules, who regard this country with honor, not error.
A variety of bureaucratic hurdles, along with students’
personal money problems, confusion about rules and fears of government, are
causing students to not tap their Dream Act Cal Grants, according to officials
and students.
personal money problems, confusion about rules and fears of government, are
causing students to not tap their Dream Act Cal Grants, according to officials
and students.
Personal money problems! Ha! Ha! How about living in the country legally?
I have no compassion for the parents who put their children in harm's way like this. We need to control our borders and demand legal restraint and process.
At this time, I favor a necessary pause in immigration, until we can sort out the necessary reforms to ensure the rule of law.
About a third of the overall awards went unused last year,
even after careful vetting of applicants for low income, high school grades and
other eligibility factors. Making matters worse, nearly half of the Cal Grants
awarded for community college costs were left on the table, as millions of
state dollars earmarked for immigrant students went unspent. UC and CSU had
better records.
even after careful vetting of applicants for low income, high school grades and
other eligibility factors. Making matters worse, nearly half of the Cal Grants
awarded for community college costs were left on the table, as millions of
state dollars earmarked for immigrant students went unspent. UC and CSU had
better records.
American students need those awards. They belong to those who respect the rule of law.
Community colleges are overwhelmed as it is. When will people get it though their thick heads that we need to stop enabling this nonsense?
PROBLEM
WORSE AT COMMUNITY COLLEGES
WORSE AT COMMUNITY COLLEGES
Lupita Cortez Alcalá, executive director of the California
Student Aid Commission, said she was “not comfortable” with the participation
rates in the Dreamer grants at community colleges in particular.
Student Aid Commission, said she was “not comfortable” with the participation
rates in the Dreamer grants at community colleges in particular.
“Of course we are concerned about those numbers,” she said,
“and we want more students who are awarded those grants to use them for their
higher education.”
“and we want more students who are awarded those grants to use them for their
higher education.”
I am not comfortable with illegal aliens getting taxpayer grant money for college. How about that?!
She said efforts are underway to reach out to more students
and community colleges to learn why young people — many of whom were brought to
the U.S. as small children — are bypassing the aid. The agency, which
administers Cal Grants, wants to solve any communication and payment problems,
she said.
and community colleges to learn why young people — many of whom were brought to
the U.S. as small children — are bypassing the aid. The agency, which
administers Cal Grants, wants to solve any communication and payment problems,
she said.
The state of California needs to stop government by sob-story. Secure the border, protect our rights, and ensuring enforcement of the law.
One contributing factor is that these undocumented students
are not eligible for federal grants and loans; so the California aid — even
bolstered by waivers of community college fees and other grants for UC and Cal
State students — may not be enough to cover total expenses, including food, housing
and books. As a result, some students abandon college and instead take
full-time jobs, forgoing the Cal grants, which range for full-time students
from $1,656 a year at community colleges to $12,240 at UC.
are not eligible for federal grants and loans; so the California aid — even
bolstered by waivers of community college fees and other grants for UC and Cal
State students — may not be enough to cover total expenses, including food, housing
and books. As a result, some students abandon college and instead take
full-time jobs, forgoing the Cal grants, which range for full-time students
from $1,656 a year at community colleges to $12,240 at UC.
The cost of college is already high, and these Illegal Alien grants are making it worse.
A recent survey by the California Student Aid Commission
found that some students who did not take the aid blamed high costs of living
in the state. In other cases, the reason was less about hardship than
communication: many students in the survey reported they had not known of the
Cal Grant offers despite what commission officials say were numerous attempts
to contact them. A significant number enrolled at community colleges anyway,
getting fee waivers but not the Cal Grants, which require more information to
qualify, such as high school grades. The colleges contend this shows they are
helping these students as much as possible and that the commission’s statewide
rules for verifying and distributing the Cal Grants are partly at fault for the
low number of takers.
found that some students who did not take the aid blamed high costs of living
in the state. In other cases, the reason was less about hardship than
communication: many students in the survey reported they had not known of the
Cal Grant offers despite what commission officials say were numerous attempts
to contact them. A significant number enrolled at community colleges anyway,
getting fee waivers but not the Cal Grants, which require more information to
qualify, such as high school grades. The colleges contend this shows they are
helping these students as much as possible and that the commission’s statewide
rules for verifying and distributing the Cal Grants are partly at fault for the
low number of takers.
The high cost of living? Boo-Hoo! The only ones who should be complaining about the high cost of anything in this state are the legal residents–you know, the people who work hard and play by the rules, from birth to death.
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The same people who are trying to work a forty-hour week and earn enough money to care for their own children and provide for a better life for their future.
These arrogant illegals: "It costs so much to live here." There is an easy solution to this mess, of course.
*Channeling Sam Kinison* — LEAVE!!!!!
Some students say some community colleges are themselves
confused about how to administer the program and put up needless barriers.
Problems arise as schools seek to verify data in some applications as required
by the aid commission.
confused about how to administer the program and put up needless barriers.
Problems arise as schools seek to verify data in some applications as required
by the aid commission.
FEAR
OF DEPORTATION
OF DEPORTATION
David Rojas Torres, who is in his second year at Santa
Monica College, said he was unable to get his Cal Grant funds because the
college wanted, among other things, copies of his parents’ tax returns. His
parents are undocumented themselves and filed late. They then became nervous
that handing over the paperwork might trigger an immigration status review or
even deportation, even though the Student Aid Commission insists that no
information is shared with immigration authorities.
Monica College, said he was unable to get his Cal Grant funds because the
college wanted, among other things, copies of his parents’ tax returns. His
parents are undocumented themselves and filed late. They then became nervous
that handing over the paperwork might trigger an immigration status review or
even deportation, even though the Student Aid Commission insists that no
information is shared with immigration authorities.
Ha! Ha! You cannot escape the rule of law! Shame on all of you!
“I was a little bit frightened. What if I was doing
something wrong? What would happen to me and my parents?” recalled Rojas
Torres, who was brought to the U.S. from Mexico at age 2 and has temporary
protection from deportation under the Obama administration’s federal Deferred
Action for Childhood Arrivals policy. So while he wound up getting the separate
fee waiver, he stopped pursuing the $1,656 Cal Grant and took a cashier job to
pay for books and other expenses.
something wrong? What would happen to me and my parents?” recalled Rojas
Torres, who was brought to the U.S. from Mexico at age 2 and has temporary
protection from deportation under the Obama administration’s federal Deferred
Action for Childhood Arrivals policy. So while he wound up getting the separate
fee waiver, he stopped pursuing the $1,656 Cal Grant and took a cashier job to
pay for books and other expenses.
I would like to deport President Obama. Who's with me? The Democratic Party has never been interested in solving the immigration problems. They enjoy fostering hatred, class strife, and even. They love exploiting illegal aliens and allowing their pandering political leaders take advantage of them and then turn on them once Democrats win their next election.
Secure the border. Americans have dreams which need to be honored. We are DREAMers too!
The work, he said, “is cutting down on my study time.” He
said he thinks that some other students were so exasperated by bureaucracy that
they decided to drop out.
said he thinks that some other students were so exasperated by bureaucracy that
they decided to drop out.
Poor illegal alien! Tough!
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But Rojas Torres, who studies business administration,
received help recently from a college counselor and expects to receive the Cal
Grant next year at Santa Monica and later transfer to Cal State Long Beach.
received help recently from a college counselor and expects to receive the Cal
Grant next year at Santa Monica and later transfer to Cal State Long Beach.
Federal privacy rules bar colleges from publicly discussing
individuals’ aid cases, according to Teresita Rodriguez, Santa Monica’s vice
president of enrollment development, and officials at other colleges statewide.
But Rodriguez said her school works hard with counseling and workshops to
encourage Dreamers to obtain all the grants.
individuals’ aid cases, according to Teresita Rodriguez, Santa Monica’s vice
president of enrollment development, and officials at other colleges statewide.
But Rodriguez said her school works hard with counseling and workshops to
encourage Dreamers to obtain all the grants.
“We put a lot of emphasis and resources in trying to get the
money in the hands of these students,” she said.
money in the hands of these students,” she said.
About 30,700 students met the application deadline for Dream
Act funds for the 2015-16 school year, yet many were eliminated for not having
the requisite high school grade point average — a 2.0 for community college and
a 3.0 for others — or for having family income above the $47,600 cutoff for
community colleges. After vetting, 8,274 Dream Act Cal Grants were offered
statewide and their usage rate varied widely among the education systems, Aid
Commission statistics show. By April, only 47 percent of the 4,003 community
college awards were paid to students. That contrasts sharply with 84 percent of
the 1,170 at UC and 68 percent of the 2,847 offered at Cal State campuses,
according to aid commission statistics.
Act funds for the 2015-16 school year, yet many were eliminated for not having
the requisite high school grade point average — a 2.0 for community college and
a 3.0 for others — or for having family income above the $47,600 cutoff for
community colleges. After vetting, 8,274 Dream Act Cal Grants were offered
statewide and their usage rate varied widely among the education systems, Aid
Commission statistics show. By April, only 47 percent of the 4,003 community
college awards were paid to students. That contrasts sharply with 84 percent of
the 1,170 at UC and 68 percent of the 2,847 offered at Cal State campuses,
according to aid commission statistics.
DREAMers are here illegally, and they are not learning, either. Well, well, well. This whole scam is blowing up in illegals' faces. Justice served.
Student Aid Commission officials said the percentages for
Cal Grant usage during the current school year will grow as some late spring
quarter enrollments are added. They expect the final tally to be about the same
as last year’s levels: 67 percent overall, 54 percent at community colleges, 91
percent at UC and 75 percent at Cal State campuses.
Cal Grant usage during the current school year will grow as some late spring
quarter enrollments are added. They expect the final tally to be about the same
as last year’s levels: 67 percent overall, 54 percent at community colleges, 91
percent at UC and 75 percent at Cal State campuses.
Since the undocumented are banned from submitting the
regular federal financial aid form, the Dream application can be used to access
other California aid as well. Low-income community college students often
receive a separate waiver from paying all tuition costs; many are eligible as
well for up to $1,656 in a Cal Grant for such costs as books, transportation
and housing (the amount is pro-rated for less than full-time studies). At UC
and Cal State schools, the Cal Grants cover all of tuition; additional aid from
the schools often pays for dorms and other costs.
regular federal financial aid form, the Dream application can be used to access
other California aid as well. Low-income community college students often
receive a separate waiver from paying all tuition costs; many are eligible as
well for up to $1,656 in a Cal Grant for such costs as books, transportation
and housing (the amount is pro-rated for less than full-time studies). At UC
and Cal State schools, the Cal Grants cover all of tuition; additional aid from
the schools often pays for dorms and other costs.
Blah!
The author of the California Dream Act, former state
Assemblyman Gil Cedillo, said government and nonprofit organizations should
work harder to convince undocumented families that no information they provide
will be shared with immigration services. In addition, Cedillo, who is now a
Los Angeles city councilman, said in an email that he has heard from many
eligible students about “challenges they had with their school’s financial aid
office.”
Assemblyman Gil Cedillo, said government and nonprofit organizations should
work harder to convince undocumented families that no information they provide
will be shared with immigration services. In addition, Cedillo, who is now a
Los Angeles city councilman, said in an email that he has heard from many
eligible students about “challenges they had with their school’s financial aid
office.”
Gil Cedillo needs to be deported, too. Heave Ho over the border.
He said schools in more politically conservative areas
“refused to inform” students about how to get the aid, a contention that the
statewide chancellor’s office said seems unlikely to be occurring in deliberate
ways since that information is widely available online.
“refused to inform” students about how to get the aid, a contention that the
statewide chancellor’s office said seems unlikely to be occurring in deliberate
ways since that information is widely available online.
Schools should not have to inform illegal aliens about anything else but … get legal!
A large number of U.S. citizens also wind up not using their
regular Cal Grants, but those students can receive substantial federal grants
and loans while undocumented students are ineligible for both. And, in contrast
to the Dreamers, some U.S. citizens had no intention of seeking Cal Grants but
were automatically offered them, along with federal aid, simply by filling out
the federal aid application; those citizens also are more likely to attend
out-of-state schools and forfeit their Cal Grants.
regular Cal Grants, but those students can receive substantial federal grants
and loans while undocumented students are ineligible for both. And, in contrast
to the Dreamers, some U.S. citizens had no intention of seeking Cal Grants but
were automatically offered them, along with federal aid, simply by filling out
the federal aid application; those citizens also are more likely to attend
out-of-state schools and forfeit their Cal Grants.
I wonder why. Maybe California's legal residents are tired of being treated like illegals!
Tim Bonnel, a financial aid specialist at the California
Community Colleges system headquarters, said he was “not aware” of colleges
purposefully blocking grants or incorrectly applying rules.
Community Colleges system headquarters, said he was “not aware” of colleges
purposefully blocking grants or incorrectly applying rules.
“Most colleges understand the law is the law,” he said.
Yet he added that some community college financial aid
offices are short-staffed compared with Cal State or UC and that might
“unfortunately lead to students falling between the cracks.”
offices are short-staffed compared with Cal State or UC and that might
“unfortunately lead to students falling between the cracks.”
“We need to help them get what they qualify for,” he said.
Excuse me?! Illegals do not ualify for anything! All this entitlement talk is really offensive. What about the thousands of legal residents and their children, who have worked so hard to ensure a better life for themselves?
They have dreams, too, you know!
Amiel Lopez was brought to the United States from Mexico at
age 5 and now is a student at San Diego City College. When she started college
last year, she was not able to receive her Cal Grant because of issues related
to her parents’ marital and income tax filing status, she said. (Many
undocumented residents pay taxes by using an alternative to a Social Security
number.) Lopez said she incorrectly had reported her parents as married when,
to her surprise, it turned out that they are not. Her parents, who are
undocumented, then were reluctant to provide the paperwork that would have
cleared up the confusion. Lopez, who has DACA protection, got a bank loan to
help cover some costs.
age 5 and now is a student at San Diego City College. When she started college
last year, she was not able to receive her Cal Grant because of issues related
to her parents’ marital and income tax filing status, she said. (Many
undocumented residents pay taxes by using an alternative to a Social Security
number.) Lopez said she incorrectly had reported her parents as married when,
to her surprise, it turned out that they are not. Her parents, who are
undocumented, then were reluctant to provide the paperwork that would have
cleared up the confusion. Lopez, who has DACA protection, got a bank loan to
help cover some costs.
So, parents are illegal, the kids are illegal, they are not married, they do not pay their taxes on time, they have no regard for the customs and mores of this country …
This was no DREAM Act, but actually a total nightmare!
This year, after straightening things out, she was delighted
to receive her full awards. For most U.S. citizens seeking financial aid, “it’s
easier and there are a lot more opportunities for them,” she said. In contrast,
undocumented students “have to make that extra step and put in a lot more
effort.”
to receive her full awards. For most U.S. citizens seeking financial aid, “it’s
easier and there are a lot more opportunities for them,” she said. In contrast,
undocumented students “have to make that extra step and put in a lot more
effort.”
Who cares if the process is harder for illegals? Too damn bad!
“We have to prove that these things cannot put us down,” she
said.
said.
They are not getting you down, as much as you are not in line with the law. That needs to be taken are of first!
Other undocumented students say they are pleased to have
received the grants without any hassles or delays. For example, at UC Berkeley,
third-year student Paola Mora said she knows older students who had to take off
alternate years from school to work so they could afford tuition before the
California Dream Act was enacted.
received the grants without any hassles or delays. For example, at UC Berkeley,
third-year student Paola Mora said she knows older students who had to take off
alternate years from school to work so they could afford tuition before the
California Dream Act was enacted.
“I’m really grateful I don’t have to go through that, and I
can just focus on school for the four or five years I’m here. I work on the
side, but I don’t necessarily depend on that work to sustain me here at
school,” said Mora, who came from Mexico as a small child and now receives the
grants plus wages from a work-study job on campus. The aid “has changed my
experience compared to people in the past.”
can just focus on school for the four or five years I’m here. I work on the
side, but I don’t necessarily depend on that work to sustain me here at
school,” said Mora, who came from Mexico as a small child and now receives the
grants plus wages from a work-study job on campus. The aid “has changed my
experience compared to people in the past.”
EdSource is an independent, nonprofit organization whose
mission is to engage Californians on key education challenges. Read more at
www.edsource.org.
mission is to engage Californians on key education challenges. Read more at
www.edsource.org.
Final Reflection
Shame on the whole lot of them.
Shame on the state of California's Democratic regime for encouraging this utter lawlessness.
Instead of helping to solve problems, they have merely created more.
We really do need a wall, and the only beautiful door which should be open should be for the legal residents trying to make it in this world
The state of California needs to be turned up and over, with something better put in place for the legal residents.
For Californians, for the true DREAMERS.
Also, notice that pervasive element of entitlement and intolerance.
The large number of illegals mentioned and quoted in the article above care about themselves. Thet act as though the state of California and the residents who pay the taxes should be accommodating them.
That is very offensive.
At one time, I was so pressed to find a way to help those illegal alien youth who were brought here illegally.
Enough!
Our nation, our state must focus on border integrity and the rule of law. We need to put the needs of Americans FIRST!